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Conquer from iForce – An Introduction
Conquer is a pre-workout supplement from the company iforce. It’s supposedly a replacement supplement for the old PWO named Maximize Intense (which, after the Conquer release, has been discontinued)
iforce is a very known name in the supplement space, and Conquer is just one PWO from their broad selection of various supplements. On the iforce nutrition website you will find everything from protein powder, test boosters, fat burners to pump and stim based pre-workout supplements, including the two very popular Hemavo2 Max and Max Out.
Before Conquer, I never had any personal experience with any of their supplements. Then a couple of weeks ago when I came by the local supp store, the owner showed me Conquer and I decided get myself a jar and see what all the fuss is about.
So this is where we are now. I have had Conquer for a few weeks, and used it every now and then when looking for some extra energy to hit the gym. I finally think I am in a position to give an honest and fair review of the pre workout, so let’s get to it.
Pros & Cons of Conquer
- Good energy
- Cheap price per serving
- Low Blood Sugar Feeling
- Prop. blend
- Small serving size
- Not much pump
- Taste bad
What iForce has to Say About Conquer
They actually say a lot which is really nice to see. We often see new supplements released with a description that simply doesn’t go into any details about the supplement itself, nor any of the substances used. That is not the case here. iForce have a long page with a lot of information about Conquer.
Below is a small snip of what is listed on the page.
WIN YOUR WAR!
Are you prepared?Each of us has a score to settle. Whether it be a crusade against the iron, a never ending feud between you and your competition, or the daily struggle to constantly crush your own personal bests, there is no doubt that every person is caught up in an internal battle each and every day. The only question is if you are prepared enough to go to war, and WIN!
Train hard!In order to be prepared for the worst, you have to train at your best. The only way to train at your best is to give your body the fuel it needs to power through even the most grueling workouts, day after day after day. Are you providing your body with everything it needs to succeed? The only way to succeed is by training with more intensity. By increasing the amount of intensity you put into your sport of choice, you are able to get more work accomplished in a smaller window of time. By training like this, your will be able grow faster, stronger, and leaner in less time than you’ve ever imagined. Nothing on the market can compare to Conquer™ when it comes to raw intensity. By flooding your body with key energy and adrenaline boosting compounds, Conquer™ will finally allow you to train like the warrior that you KNOW you are.
ADRENALINE FOR INSANE ENERGY!When it comes to instantaneous energy, nothing hits your body as hard as adrenaline can. Adrenaline is quite literally the most potent stimulant our body produces, and by increasing this hormone, you will be able to train longer and harder* than ever before. Thanks to the inclusion of Acacia Rigidula, Conquer™ will have your adrenaline PUMPING through your veins, and giving you the power you need to push through any workout…..
There are many more details posted on the site. Read it all here: iforcenutrition.com/conquer
Supplement Facts of Conquer
So far so good. Let’s take a loot at the supplement facts of Conquer from iforce. One common issue when reviewing pre-workout supplements is to get the version right, and make the readers aware of what is actually being reviewed; this tends to be difficult because new versions are released all the time, and the names often remains the same. With Conquer this isnt an issue; as far as I can tell, there has only ever been one version, and that’s what I am reviewing here. Because of this, you can make sure that the version you get, whether in US or EU, supplement facts will be the same. With that being said, lets get to it. Here goes:
Supplement Facts – Conquer from iForce
|Vitamin B12 (As Methylcobalamin)||125mcg|
|Conquer™ Proprietary Blend:||3,400mg|
Nitric Oxide and Endurance Explosion Matrix
|Creatinol-O-Phosphate (COP), Agmatine Sulfate, L-Norvaline|
Intense Volumization and Strength Matrix
|Creatine Monohydrate (99% Pure), L-Taurine|
Energy & Adrenaline Release Matrix
|Caffeine Anhydrous, Acacia Rigidula Extract (Highly Standardized for Phenylethylamine, N-Methyl-B-Methylphenylethylamine, R-Beta-Methylphenylethylamine), Green Tea Extract (Standardized for Theophylline), Citrus Aurantium Extract (Standardized for full spectrum Synephrine Alkaloids)|
Supplement Facts In Details
The substances used in Conquer has been listed in the box above. Now let’s take a closer look at them, and cover the details of what they do, and why the have been used in Conquer.
Niacin / Vitamin B3
Niacin / Vitamin B3:So first of all we got 12.5 mg of Niacin (which is another name for Vitamin B3). Niacin is famous for giving users a the niacin flush – a tingling sensation very similar to tingle you get from a good dose of beta-alanine. Personally I enjoy this feeling, but lots of people hate it. Either way, 12.5 mg isn’t really enough to give you a strong niacin flush (as the strength of the niacin flush goes hand in hand with the dose you take). Personally, I cant feel it from one serving of conquer. Why exactly is Niacin used in Conquer? Well, actually it doesn’t do much from a pre-workout perspective. Jim Stoppani tells you why it’s often used in PWO’s righ here (hint – because you “feel” something). This would make sense, but the thing is that if that was true, the dose would need to be upped. Because of this, I simply can’t say for sure, what the reason for including niacin is.
Some people claim that niacin will improve vascularity, but I think this is questionable. I have never noticed this effect myself, and if there was some truth to this, I think the dose used here is too low anyway. The arguments on improved vascularity I have seen, seems to go hand in hand with the niacina flush, which won’t be achieved by 12.5 mg. I guess the idea people have is, that niacin causes the blood vessels to dilate (which is what causes the flush) and it is believed that this equates to improved vascularity. If this was the case, it would arguably only last as long as the niacin flush does (which is approximately 30 minutes to an hour). In addition to this, a tolerance is to this is build up pretty fast and finally, the dose for any (just a mild) flush to happen, the dose would probably need to be upped to at least 50 mg. So even two scoops of Conquer would only give you half the niacin dose of what is likely to give you a bit of niacin flush.
Now don’t get me wrong; with the stuff above, it might sound like there it’s no benefits to using niacin at all, but that not true; far from it. There are lots and lots of benefits (and unique ones) to supplementing with niacin – it just doesn’t seem to be very relevant from a pre-workout perspective.
Vitamin B12 is an important vitamin which amongst other helps with energy metabolism, support healthy nerve functions and formations of red blood cells. There is definitely a need to supplement with vitamin B12 if you are in a deficit, but most people aren’t. What should be noted here is that we are getting the active form of B12 Methylcobalamin and not Cyanocobalamin – Cyanocobalamin is the cheaper version, while Methylcobalamin is a bit more expensive, so we know that iforce gives us some quality stuff here.
Back to the reasoning for B12 again; as vitamin B12 supports converting carbohydrates into glucose, which is used for energy its quite normal people eat a banana or some other carbs before hitting the gym – if you, at this stage have a vitamin B12 deficit, the conversion process wont be optimal, which ultimately will lead to a less than optimal workout session. I think that is the primary reason for the inclusion. However, I think its needless to say that if you have a vitamin B12 deficit, your workout sessions are probably not your main priority!
In addition to this vitamin B12 has also been shown to boost the imune system and speed up the recovery process. That’s all good, but sounds more like something for a post-workout supplement than a pre, in my opinion. Anyhow, it’s there and I am not going to complain about it.
Potassium, Sodium & Magnesium Phosphate
These are simply electrolytes. Electrolytes supports muscle contraction and facilitates hydration. Clearly these are extremely important aspects in order to get a proper workout session done. Surely this is not the substances that makes Conquer stand out from the crowd, but it’s nice to see them here, and in my personal opinion, a good fit for any pre-workout.
Let’s continue to the nitric Oxide and Endurance Explosion Matrix, which is the first par of the Conquer Prop. blend. The first substance used here is creatinol-O-Phosphate (COP) which sounds a bit like some creatine variation, but then again, not really. What exactly is this stuff? Well first of all, it’s not a creatine variation. Secondly, this is a fairly new, and because of this, not very well studied substance. With that being said, it is believed to act somewhat similar to that of beta-alanine, where the most interesting part is it’s ability to counter fatigue by increasing cellular glycolysis, in the presence of latic acid (buffer latic acid) which ultimately mean that you will be able to maintain a high workload performance for a longer period than you would without this substance.
As mentioned above, there isn’t a lot of studies on this stuff, unfortunately, but the short version here is, I love beta-alanine, and I think there is a lot of potential in Creatinol-O-Phosphate. We are seeing this substance being used in more and more pre-workout supplements, and the dose does vary quite a bit; typically in the range of 500 mg to 2,000 mg. In Conquer, we don’t know how much we get, but considering that the total prop. blend is listed at 3,400 mg, I assume the dose of creatinol-O-Phosphate is closer to 500 mg than to 2,000 mg. (which also seems to be the standard most manufacturers are going for). There is a good read on nutrientjournal.com on this substance if you want to know more (read it here)
Agmatine Sulfate (which occasionally is listed a AgmaPure – but not in Conquer) acts as an anti-oxidant, appears to help regulate the levels of Nitric Oxide and should allegedly be able to give the user a focus boost. The most interesting aspect of agmatine sulfate is it’s effect on hyperemia (pump); typically NO related substances are used with the intention of increasing the NO levels. Agmatine sulfate however, works as a pump amplifier by prolonging its lifespan by preventing NO breakdown. I have no complaints here; good stuff.
I have mentioned this substance here on muscles.zone several times before, as it’s becoming quite a common contender on the supplement facts on pre-workout supplements. L-Norvaline is an analog of the branched chain amino acid, valine. It can be found in foods such as dairy, meat, grains, soy and peanuts. Since valine is an essential amino acid, L-Norvaline has to be obtained through your diet or via supplements, as the body cannot produce it. With that being said, what is the specific reason for the inclusion in the nitric oxide and endurance explosion matrix? The short version is that L-Norvaline indirectly promotes NO production. The reason for this is that L-norvaline is an inhibitor of the enzyme arginase and arginase is responsible for the breakdown of Arginine in the body. As Arginine is converted to NO, preventing it’s breakdown equals more available NO.
This is a no-brainer, but should you be in doubt about this substance, you can read everything you need to know about it right here: creatine. There is no question about creatine. It’s good and it works. The right question to ask here is what dose do we get. The typical recommended dose is 3 – 5 grams daily; we are not getting that here, simple as that. In my opinion, they should have left creatine monohydrate out of the mix and added some beta-alanine, or alternatively they should have added the full 3 – 5 grams of creatine monohydrate.
Ahh the good ol’e taurine . You will find it in almost every single energy drink on the market, and yet few people tend to know what it does. Taurine is actually an amino acid – a conditionally essential amino acid meaning that it’s synthesis can be limited under special pathophysiological conditions.
It acts as a cell hydration agent by pulling water into the cells. In addition to hydration, this also gives the user what some will consider a benefit – a water-based pump. Opinions on this matter are very shattered. Some likes it while others don’t. It’s kind of the creatine bloat talk all over again. Finally, it has been shown to enhance endurance, focus and reduce soreness.
Caffeine is what it is, and there should be no reason to go into details here. Its in coffee, green tea and used as the main substance in 99% of all basic energy drinks on the market. Its a known energy booster and performance enhancer. My guess is we get around 200 to 300 mg in a scoop of Conquer, which is close to the standard dose used in most pre-workout supplements. Good, basic and expected substance.
Acacia Rigidula Extract
Acacia Rigidula Extract is, according to the supplement facts, standardized for the following:
Right. There are definitely a lot of mixed thoughts on acacia rigidula extract out there (along with warnings from Pieter Cohen and the FDA). According to Cohen, R-Beta-Methylphenytethylamine / BMPEA / βMePEA is not found in acacia rigidula extract.
While researching the chemical, Cohen says he found something he calls disturbing: In 2012, the FDA’s own scientists also tested acacia supplements and found BMPEA in about half the products they tested. And they determined — by testing Acacia rigidula leaves — that there was no such compound in the plant. Their study was published in 2013 in the Journal of Pharmaceutical and Biomedical Analysis. – http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/news/20150407/bmpea-acacia-rigidula-supplments
There is lots and lots of information on this topic of BMPEA and Acacia Rigidula Extract. The guys over at priceplow wrote a brilliant post on exactly this, and I simply can’t do it any better myself, so head over and read it right here.
This substance is listed as green tea extract, but is often listed as cacao extract. Theophylline along with caffeine and theobromine are known as methylxanthines. They all carry a slightly different chemical structure, but act fairly similar as CNS stimulants.
Another common CNS stimulant that I have highlighted several times before, here on muscles.zone. It’s often referred to as a weak version of Ephedrine, with a similar set of actions that can improve fat loss mainly by enhancing lipolysis and increasing the user’s resting metabolic rate. It’s stimulating effects are not comparable to that of ephedrine, making it an OK substance in a PWO, but the short version is that it’s better suited for fat burners in my opinion.
Taste & Mixability
Mixability is good. One scoop in a shaker with water mixes fine and leaves little to no sediment. If you dont drink it up imidiately, it will need another shake, but that’s about it.
Taste however, is a different story. Give it a lot of water and the taste is decent. If you don’t get enough water the taste is bad. I got the raspberry Lemonade, and the only reason I know, is because that’s what it reads on the label.
Pump, Energy, Focus & Endurance
In spite of an interesting pump matrix, Conquer almost does nothing for me on this front. There is a lilttle extra pump, but it’s nothing compared to what I get from say Assault or Pre Jym. Maybe creatinol-O-Phosphate isn’t as potent as it has been hyped to be, or maybe the dose is too low. Maybe a double scoop would serve me better from a pump perspective, but that would be overkill on the stimulating side of things.
Focus and energy is up shortly after taking a scoop of Conquer, and it’s up quite a bit! Whatever you want to believe about Acacia Rigidula Extract, this is definitely doing something, as the energy is different from what you would get from caffeine alone. The flipside to this is, that energy isn’t up for very long. It’s like a burst of short-lived energy that fades within a short period of time, so you want to get your shake minutes prior to hitting the gym, as the buzz is likely to be gone before you are done with your session. Another issue here is that tolerance seems to build extremely fast! Like, from one day to the next basically. You get that burst of energy one time, maybe two, but not three days in a row. This makes Conquer a, on occasion only, kind of PWO. Finally on the energy and focus side of things, I need to highlight that I, almost every single time I take this, get a low blood sugar feeling, which is extremely counterproductive and really outweighs the benefits one might get from a scoop of Conquer. This might not happen to everyone, but it happened to me, majority of times I have taken this PWO. It’s not the typical jittery you get from too much caffeine – it’s different but not in a good way.
Endurance is debatable. When I dont get the low blood sugar feeling, endurance is slightly better than normal, but since the boost of energy tends to fade pretty fast, tolerance is build within day(s), and because I more often than not get that odd jittery, I would say endurance isnt much better than being without it.
Low blood sugar feeling is a major issue for me here, as when that kicks in, I am basically better off without it – this is specially true considering I get little to no pump amplification from Conquer. Besides from this, I haven’t noticed any side effects. There is no crash following the use of Conquer, but you might want to think twice about the whole Acacia Rigidula Extract story before you decide whether Conquer is for you or not. Read this story on severe side-effects from BMPEA for one, but make sure to read the article linked to above, from priceplow, to put things into perspective.
Price Per Serving and Ratings
Conquer has a rating of 8.4 out of 10 based on 17 ratings over at bodybuilding.com . The supplement is not on the list over at supplementreviews.com. The cheapest price I can find on Conquer is over at suppz.com where you can get a jar with 60 servings for a total of $24.99 meaning that the price per serving comes at $.041 which is a relatively good price, everything else being equal.
Verdict of Conquer
I got very mixed feelings with Conquer. First time I tried it, I got really good energy and no jittery. Second time the energy was nowhere close to the first experience and third time I got the jittery mentioned above, which has happened several times since then. So tolorence is built extremely fast (but seems to vanish just as fast again). Energy is good but last for a short timespan. Pumps are not worth mentioning. Taste is bad, but enough water will solve this issue. The price per serving is good when compared to the average price per serving for a standard PWO, but when you look at it relative to what you get here, the deal seems less favorable.
If you use Conquer and can avoid the jittery I got, then its a really good energy and focus PWO for occasional use! With that being said, you still want to consider the pros of this vs. the potential cons that might come with BMPEA.
I have taken Conquer a couple of times, and I won’t be doing it again. Personally, I think the energy is good but that’s it. I think the potential danger of BMPEA is larger than the benefits I get from it – specially since this is part of the prop. blend so I don’t really know how much I get.
The Short version is that this is a good PWO for energy when used here and there, but don’t get it for pumps. If you need a Pre workout supplement to use on a daily basis, this is not what you are looking for. In my opinion, you will be much better off with something like Assault, Pre Jym or NO Xplode.
UPDATE : If you go to iforce homepage, you can find information on Conquer here, but when you go to the store section Conquer isn’t listed there anymore. I think iforce was one of the companies who was told to discontinue products containing BMPEA, so maybe that’s what happened. You can however, still find this stuff on lots of sites online. But maybe not for long….